OOC Discussion. Part Deux!

[Kossage]

Here's the sequel to the original OOC thread (http://www.thegamersalliance.net/forums/showthread.php?t=549&page=1).

As usual, this thread is for OOC, Out of Character, discussion where we go "So where are you? Can we meet up?" and stuff instead of spamming the RP thread.

[Nic]

AKA the Spam thread. x)

[Aerith's knight]

Annnnd...I'm pretty sure the pic is supposed to be of a guy, but it still made me think of what Tiyana looks like in my head:

Everytime I hear that name I think of beer pong, beaches and girls in bikinis for some reason. >_>

[Nic]

I think of barbecued iguana.

[Nic]

Also, I guess I'll have to write another post up. DP's post pretty much made it impossible for the one I already have written to work at all.

Got a bunch of homework, class this weekend, work on tuesday, out of town appointment on wednesday...don't think I'll be posting for a while, I guess.

[Citizen Bleys]

Methinks Mr. DP had just a bit too much fun with the Soap.

[Nic]

He'd better be careful not to drop it. :|

[Citizen Bleys]

It should be safe now that Leon's married.

[Nic]

I think you're forgetting how Cable died. :|

...Oh man, that gives me even more ideas. I wonder what Sean would think if he knew what I'm sorta-planning on doing to his character. :}

[Aerith's knight]

It should be safe now that Leon's married.

How does that even make sense? xD

edit:...

Oh, wait.. ^_^'

Well, pardon me, I don't watch gay porn like you guys, so I don't always get the references. xD

[Citizen Bleys]

...

[Dignified Pauper]

what if i dropped the soap on purpose?

[Citizen Bleys]

Leon would still be married

[Dignified Pauper]

I suppose so. Doesn't change the fact that I like dropping the soap though.

[Citizen Bleys]

For the record, Leon knows nothing of Drishnek. Since he became fully mortal, he can't sense shit.

Unless he steps in it.

[The Last Oath]

With soap and bunnies, i can see Puffy appearing in the temple and slaying half the party :O.

[Kossage]

The Last Oath: I think that Ax and Waldheim's groups will go straight to Maar Sul if they succeed in their mission. If you really want someone to escort Tiyana to Remonton, though, we can figure something out.

Bleys: feel free to RP the Losstarots and the Vulfsatz too if you want. They were inspired by your original baddie characters, after all.

And speaking of which:

"Arawn stabbed me thirty-seven times," replied Leon. "I'm still pretty mad about that."

<3

[Aerith's knight]

I can't, I have to follow that cake-loving fool. >_>

It's like babysitting a drunk baby.

[Nic]

And I've spent this entire story arc wanting to get out of Remon. I don't wanna go back. xD

We do still have some characters back in Remon for her to interact with if she ends up there, though. Arbriel's still there until I decide what to do with him, Dylas (I think?), Stevenson, Izael...

[Aerith's knight]

And where the hell did Kaisa go anyway? xD

Kaisa: *munch* "Huh? Where did everyone go?"

[Dignified Pauper]

Dylas is back in Ravensworth. Stevenson... Hmm, I suppose he would be back as well.

[Kossage]

I thought Stevenson and many of his Watchmen would be marching with the Alliance to Maar Sul. If any of you want him to stay in Ravensworth instead, though, it can be easily retconned. Adram Alek was the previous Captain of the Watch, after all, so maybe he'd lead the Watchmen to Maar Sul while Stevenson stays behind to keep things in order in Ravensworth.

But yeah, I'm fine whether Stevenson is with the army or back in Ravensworth. I'll leave that up to you guys. xD

[Citizen Bleys]

I wrote that whole post around Leon getting to use that line, and also making sure that everyone knew that 99% of the world thought that Prince Regent Leon was named after Leon the Andain, and very few people knew they were one and the same.

[Nic]

Kaisa's with the main group marching to Maar Sul. ;o

And all of Remon can crumble into the ocean for all I care. Seriously, hate Remon. Might as well put Adram back in Ravensworth or something. Or kill him, or keep him for cannon fodder later. Sean won't be back for him, and he's too boring for me to bother with. xD

[Citizen Bleys]

I'm getting really interested in Alent. Too bad I'm in such a tearing hurry to get to the SBT. Also, I'm developing an idea for a future Maar Sul based RP that might get pushed back indefinitely if I wind up spending all of my time in Alent after the SBT arc.

Also: Aww, I wanted Tybalt to live. Shakespeare characters ftw!

I hope Grant's the one who killed him, since he only got a name so that he could die horribly.

[Kossage]

OMG, Bleys used "ftw" and "aww" in the same sentence! And it didn't help matters that the red dragon in Nic's sig turned into a pimp while I read your post! The end is nigh! *jumps off a cliff*

Erm... anyway, I'll elaborate more on Tybalt's death and its repercussions later. Your earlier PM actually gave me a nifty idea. ;)

It's kind of funny how many characters have actually said that they'd want to go to Alent. I think Jemuel will have to start collecting entrance fees soon. xD

[The Last Oath]

Dont worry. I dont wanna screw up ur story. Can Tiyana find a teleport stone in the temple and use it to go to Remonton?

[Citizen Bleys]

I'm really looking forward to writing Leon's first reaction to Jemuel, actually.

[Aerith's knight]

Dont worry. I dont wanna screw up ur story. Can Tiyana find a teleport stone in the temple and use it to go to Remonton?

I'm sure there's a convient-magical-things-that-don't-exist store in the middle of a ruined city full of enemies? :/

[Kossage]

The Last Oath: that works. I'm sure there are a bunch of weird things inside the temple, or I can let one of my characters escort Tiyana to Remonton if it comes to that. And don't worry, you're not screwing up the story. I can adapt to pretty much anything the rest of you throw at me. This is a collaborative effort, after all. ;)

[Citizen Bleys]

Adapting is what makes this game so fun.

Adapting to Wesley's capture of Kagetsu (I) completely reversed his character, making him into a good guy. Sort of.

[Nic]

The "teleport stone" thing sounds silly to me, but this is coming from someone who found a stone that turns people into goats, so hey.

You could always invoke the almighty time warm dance if you really want her to get to Remon. We like those.

[Aerith's knight]

It's not the idea of the teleport stone that's bothering me, but the idea that in derelict ruins you find a teleport stone that goes somewhere where you just happen to want to go. It's too convenient and too many of those conveniences make for a story where the main smiley for it would be -_-'

[Kossage]

We've had a few deus ex machinas before, and you should remember how Tiyana originally ended up in the Ruined Kingdom in the first place.

Examples of other rather major deus ex machinas in past plots: the whole Cricket Ball stone thingie that could nullify the power of an important magic weapon, and a random wolf that suddenly appeared out of nowhere to save Leon in the nick of time (although that wolf later on turned out to be Kagetsu I). xD

The teleport stone isn't the only way for Tiyana to reach Remonton, remember. After all, someone like Unithien could easily escort Tiyana to Remonton if needed, or Tiyana might ask for directions from Waldheim and travel there by herself. It's no big a deal. :)

[Aerith's knight]

After all, someone like Unithien could easily escort Tiyana to Remonton if needed, or Tiyana might ask for directions from Waldheim and travel there by herself. It's no big a deal. :)

Much more believable, just as easy, and far more pleasant to read. :)

Or she could just teleport there, after getting the directions.

[Kossage]

In case anyone's wondering, the Vulfsatz won't be reaching Alent any time soon, but I wanted to introduce them as a distant threat to the Maar Sulais party to spice up the story. ;)

[Aerith's knight]

I'm really busy this weekend(mostly because I still have about 300 pages of pure physics to go through *sobs*), so if anyone wants to move on the story, go ahead, because Nic also bailed for the moment.

I'll be back in action by thuesday.

[Citizen Bleys]

Examples of other rather major deus ex machinas in past plots: ...a random wolf that suddenly appeared out of nowhere to save Leon in the nick of time (although that wolf later on turned out to be Kagetsu I). xD

That's not really a deus ex machina; Kagetsu was only half god.

EDIT: Also, I don't think I ever specified the exact mechanics behind what a lich was back in the Ofuchi RP, so I might as well do so now--although of course I never used Drishnek the way I'd planned to, so it's all subject to change:

My idea of a tGA lich was like Thanatos in Secret of Mana. That would make Drishnek different from other undead in that he summoned himself back from the dead. In short, he's a body snatcher. When one body gets too old--and aging can be accelerated by some of the dark magics a lich would use--he just finds another young person, drains their soul, and takes over their body. Although it is possible for a lich to take over the body of someone of the opposite sex, it would be more difficult, and they'd be extremely uncomfortable until they found a host of the same sex as they were during life.

Even if a lich changes bodies while the old one is still good, the old body dies.

[Aerith's knight]

Even if a lich changes bodies while the old one is still good, the old body dies.


Such a waste, always finish the leftovers, I say. : P

[Kossage]

Do you think Drishnek would have a phylactery (a sort of amulet which a lich traditionally uses to contain his power and which can help revive him should he die)?

Also, I still cringe at the thought of the final battle against Thanatos. It was already annoying and it became even worse when that horrible battle music began playing. I suppose it was done intentionally to make you want to beat the crap out of Thanatos just to make that music stop. xP

[The Last Oath]

I take it that "Guy", is Briss, and its some sort of SAVAGE inside joke used as a cover story.haha

[Nic]

I take it that "Guy", is Briss, and its some sort of SAVAGE inside joke used as a cover story.haha
The Guy Who The Gods Like To Pick On was a character of Bleys' from one of the older RPs. The Gods...really did like to pick on him. x}

[Aerith's knight]

The Guy Who The Gods Like To Pick On was a character of Bleys' from one of the older RPs. The Gods...really did like to pick on him. x}

Guy: "Oeh! Ah! No, that's not supposed to go there!"



...They're really bored in heaven.

[Kossage]

Guy is actually a random NPC SAVAGE member. Remember what Leon said in Chapter 3?

"...I'd like the expedition to be headed up by King Khasra, with myself, Steve, and Alistair Wisteria along as well. We'll take another <b>4 SAVAGE members</b> to assist us should there be fighting. I'm hoping to avoid conflict in foreign territory by travelling incognito."

Now that Grant and Reynard are dead, it means that there are still <i>two</i> SAVAGE members left. One of these obviously ended up being Briss, so there was one unnamed one left, and that one turned out to be Guy.

And I just wanted to write that Guy stuff in, because I thought the original The Guy Who The Gods Like To Pick On was bloody hilarious, so the naming of Guy was a tribute to that character. x)

Also, The Last Oath: I hope you'll understand that growing powerful in a short amount of time would be considered to be god-moding. As far as I'm concerned, I don't mind if your character grows a little stronger by studying books, but as Doomy said in the RP, learning magic (and training in swordfight etc.) requires lots of time and patience, so it's not like in RPs where you read a book and suddenly gain a new level.

For example, my black mage Waldheim has studied magic for decades and yet he isn't all-powerful even though he read through pretty much every book he could find in Remon. My red mage Belial is even worse off, because he is a red mage: he knows a little bit of everything (black/white magic, sword fighting) but is master of none and thus sucks most of the time. ;)

[The Last Oath]

Now that Grant and Reynard are dead, it means that there are still <i>two</i> SAVAGE members left. One of these obviously ended up being Briss, so there was one unnamed one left, and that one turned out to be Guy.

Briss is a previous member of SAVAGE. He is now a private military contracter but if you want to count him as one of the SAVAGE members then thats fine.

[QUOTE]Also, The Last Oath: I hope you'll understand that growing powerful in a short amount of time would be considered to be god-moding. As far as I'm concerned, I don't mind if your character grows a little stronger by studying books, but as Doomy said in the RP, learning magic (and training in swordfight etc.) requires lots of time and patience, so it's not like in RPs where you read a book and suddenly gain a new level.[QUOTE]

And dont worry about this, there'll be no god-moding, Briss main mode of attack is with his sword and engulfing it in magic as his class suggests. Its just that when Briss finds out what happened to Sajon he's going to be motivated to take on the totenkopfs and he'll need a better understanding of magic to do that.

[Kossage]

Whoops. Anyway, I'm fine whether Briss is counted into that group of four or not. If it is the latter, though, maybe we can introduce another comic relief character to SAVAGE. ;)

Yeah, it's ok to develop one's skills as long as one doesn't suddenly jump from an ordinary mage into an archmage. It's just that no one wants to RP an almighty character, because that would get boring and would make challenges easy (that was the reason Bleys killed the Andain off, because they were way too powerful for the story). That's why even my villain characters like Xerathas have their weaknesses; flaws and quirks make them three-dimensional and thus more human (although it's sort of ironic in Xerathas's case).

Multiclassing is also possible. For example, Refan is a thief who has tried to learn fighting and white magic skills but with only little success, and I intend to develop his skills as time moves on (although it'll obviously take time).

[Citizen Bleys]

Yeah, I wasn't intending for Briss to be one of the 4 SAVAGE members, since they would have been chosen before Gerard, Khasra, and Leon even knew he existed.

Plus, I didn't know that Briss had been in SAVAGE until he posted it. That wasn't something we cooked up together; Alistair's monologue about him having a dossier opened on him by SRT was meant to establish fastidious attention to detail as his defining character trait. Not that anyone could be a good G without that trait, but it still lends some verisimilitude to his character.

SRT keeps dossiers on lots of people, not just the folks they want to recruit. Hell, they have one on Khasra, and he's a Scun.

EDIT: As for the phylactery, that's up to you, Koss. I finished with Drishnek literally years ago. Although it is fun to have an opportunity to use the word "phylactery," I hadn't heard or read it since back in the good ol' days when I played Neverwinter Nights. I also like "incondign," "drivel," "malarkey," and "unambergrised"

EDIT 2: Most of these are fun words, too (http://www.gdiproductions.net/srdamd/)

[Kossage]

I'm so going to bookmark that page. No wonder the Finnish translation of Thomas Covenant angered a lot of people. I've yet to read it, but now I feel sorry for the poor translator who must've spent countless hours checking his dictionary for all those words. :(

A trivia question: was Drishnek's name based on some existing character, or was that an original name? It sounds cool, so I was just wondering.

[Aerith's knight]

Holy moley, Dylas is one sick puppy. 0_o

[Dignified Pauper]

Sure is. Goodbye bandits in Ravensworth, goodbye Amon, goodbye Cousin Zarenec.

Transferring troops back to Opethsburg who were involved in the capture? CHECK

Involving the Ravensworth Watch in shadiness? CHECK.

Fooling Stevenson for a common goal? CHECK.

Ridding himself of all nuisances? Half-Check... there's still Swenson...

[Citizen Bleys]

A trivia question: was Drishnek's name based on some existing character, or was that an original name? It sounds cool, so I was just wondering.

It, er...

It was based on the Ukrainian word for garlic. (Chesnek)

I couldn't think of anything better.

[Nic]

lawl, Demonic reflex. x)

[Citizen Bleys]

Now Leon's meeting with Jemuel is going to be really interesting.

[Aerith's knight]

I hope Jemuel doesn't find him too soft and cuddly? xD

Although I'm getting the idea from Kos's posts that Jemuel is nothing more than an illusion cast by the yellow mage.

[Citizen Bleys]

Yellow mage?

A mage who has been urinated on?

[Aerith's knight]

Did I read that wrong? Anywho, he was being followed by another bage in any case.

[The Last Oath]

Tiyana so could've used Stop on that boulder if she was in that group.

[Dignified Pauper]

Yeah, we might have had a way out then too...

[The Last Oath]

You havnt got a way out now either. Its stuck in the wall.

[Schtolteheim Reinbach III]

Drishnek is cloaked in yellow. It's not like a school of magic or anything.

Garlicmancy.


and I apologize for the quality of my last post, I rushed it a bit since it was late already.

[Citizen Bleys]

I actually liked the ranty bit, it gives me a better grip on how the Alentish think.

But Kagetsu? He wanted to destroy the world before Wesley forced him to become a good guy. Sure he wanted to re-make it and distribute the powers of the gods & andain to all mortals, but he wanted to destroy it first.

[Aerith's knight]

I agree, giving perspective on things is always a good idea. It's good to know someone's motivation.

[Kossage]

I'll be busy with the Remon group for the time being, so feel free to reach Alent whenever you want (unless some of you have something in mind before you reach the city xD).

TLO: I'll leave it up to you whether Tiyana follows Waldheim's group into temple or not. If you don't want to tag along, though, you can take Tiyana to Remonton with or without the white mage Unithien. ;)

[Citizen Bleys]

I have no idea why Jemuel wants to see Khasra et al, so I can't write that scene.

I'm sure I can keep the drivel coming for a while, though.

[The Last Oath]

All good Koss. Im having second thoughts about sending Tiyana to Remonton since the main group is moving out. Lets just see what happens, spontanious is good.

[Kossage]

Bleys: I wasn't expecting anyone to meet Jemuel yet or anything, but just get the party into the city itself. xD I can write something about that later today if needed.

TLO: Alrighty. And I agree; adding stuff into the plot as it moves along makes the story interesting.

[Schtolteheim Reinbach III]

i should be posting something thursday, don't expect it today though

[Citizen Bleys]

Wait, what?

Who is Omaroch sensing? It can't be Khasra, he wasn't involved in the last war. It can't be Steve, since only I know who he actually is. Alistair? Hasn't left Maar Sul in 20 years. Leon? Seems most likely, he is a bard, but nobody would be able to sense any trace of his former andain self as that was all cut off to prevent, y'know, the destruction of all magic on earth. Also, he's a sheep at the moment.

If it's some sort of residual sense of having known Refan, it could be Leon or Steve, although you wouldn't have known that in the latter case. Khasra would have stayed in Scundor all the last war, so if any Scun nobility would have met Refan, it would be Khasra's father, whom I haven't named. That I remember anyways.

If it matters, Khasra's late wife was a descendent of Artagel and Kusobaba d'Arioc. That's why Maple is a midget.

[Kossage]

It's Leon. He sensed Leon, because Leon was travelling around with Refan. Omaroch was keeping an eye on Refan throughout the Great War, so he also go to observe those closest to Refan (and Leon was one of Refan's closest friends during that time). Oh, and Omaroch wouldn't sense what form Leon is in; he just knows that aura from somewhere. And no, Omaroch wouldn't know Leon was an Andain (and he certainly couldn't sense Leon's powers even if Leon suddenly was Andain today). The Andain stuff wasn't something the demons had much knowledge of (or didn't care about).

Hahaha, didn't see that Kusobaba/Artagel connection coming. Awesome!

[Citizen Bleys]

In that case, I can't wait to RP the meeting between Leon and Omaroch either.

"You...you knew my son?"
"Baaaaaa~!"

[Kossage]

It'll be quite interesting, because I think that Leon never knew that Refan was in fact a half-demon (unless he somehow sensed it or if Daven decided to reveal it for whatever reason). He can probably make the connection, though, because Omaroch looks like an older Refan.

[Citizen Bleys]

Leon wouldn't know, then.

And how would Daven tell him? Daven can't talk. At all.

[Dignified Pauper]

Just so you all know, I won't be around from tomorrow to tuesday. I'm taking a trip to chicago.

[Aerith's knight]

Have fun.

[Nic]

Impersonate an officer for me!

[Dignified Pauper]

I'll be too busy in Boys Town, eating great food, and relaxing in the Park Hyatt, with a whirlpool tub that has walls which open up to be windows to view the city with... Just saying... my partner gets free nights... yeah...

[Kossage]

DP: Have a good time. ^^

Bleys: Daven can write, and he always has a pencil and a piece of paper with him.

[Nic]

Khalid side stepped over to her side to parry blows while Tiyana kept using Slow & Haste. Then she turned to the dualists, who to help? One woman with a scar on her face and one woman who was dressed rather fancy, she looked at the scarred woman and casted Slow! The woman turned her head as if she was in a swimming pool toward Tiyana with the look in her eyes 'what have you done!'. She realised the woman with red streaks was with her group so she extended her pole and ran toward the dualing elf to lend a hand.
Um. What?

[Kossage]

Tiyana noticed Ax and Varalia duelling, and she mistook Ax for a villain (probably because of the scar). She cast Slow on Ax, but then she realized that Ax was in fact not a villain after all. Now she's hurrying to help Ax before Varalia can strike Ax down.

[Nic]

I'm just more confused by why you're allowing this whole thing.

Nephemera: So basically he just "slowga"-ed a group of 10-20 people.
Nephemera: And "hastega"-ed another group.
Nephemera: With no effort.
Nephemera: And then charged into the battle.
Nephemera: With pole extended. o_o

[Kossage]

Eh? o_o

She concentrated on their <b>circular position</b> and let loose a slowga spell onto the <b>area</b>. Then she turned to the cornered group looking at Waldheim, he nodded, and she caste a <b>field</b> of Hastega.

I'm probably overanalyzing this, but here goes: as far as I can see, she didn't specifically target every bad guy, but just the general area around the Totenkopfs (some of whom had yet to attack Ax's party, hence the use of the term "circular position"). That's why the spell itself wouldn't have as much effect as it would have if it had been specifically targeted to every single bad guy in the room. Then she cast a field of hastega around Waldheim's group, hence the use of the term "field".

Please bear in mind that the bad guys have mages too and they're not stupid. Case in point: one or more of the Totenkopfs can cast Dispel or whatever to immediately nullify Tiyana's spell(s). The same applies to the heroes too, of course: people like Nymgrock and Waldheim can easily cast Dispel on Ax to nullify the spell which Tiyana had cast on her. Belial can't do that, though, because he's not a pure mage.

The only thing I could consider to be godmoding in that post is that she should've been exhausted after casting so many powerful spells in a row. I suppose I missed that because I was in a hurry when I first read through it.

So yeah, I'm fine with what has happened as long as I'm not going to see "super-duper magic and no exhaustion afterwards" in the RP again. The simplest solution is that Tiyana gets tired because she has cast so many spells.

If anyone wants to cast lots of spells in a row, just bear in mind that the mage shouldn't be as energetic afterwards. I realized that this sentence isn't even mentioned in the Rules, but let's just say that it goes under the "use your fucking brain" and "no god-moding" categories in the Rules thread.

<b>tl; dr</b>: Meh. Just cast Dispel to nullify the spell(s) and carry on with the story. And TLO: please keep in mind that even mages aren't all-powerful. If your mage casts high-level spells, she will get tired after casting one or two of them and will need to rest a bit to regain her strength.

[Citizen Bleys]

It's hard to codify god-moding. I walked a fine line with Leon back when he was still andain. I kept Kagetsu away from combat for the most part for the same reason, once he was forced to become a "good guy."

I suppose Kagetsu's betrayal of the Alliance at the end of the Arawn war was definitely god-moded, but that part of the backstory was never actually RP'd.

By the same token, actions that would definitely be godmoding for a protagonist-type character wouldn't be so for a villain. Case in point, Pronin's nigh-effortless conquest of Scundia and half of Maar Sul. Hell, Pronin only became stuck as the wolf because I thought it would make a better story, and the same danger applies to Gerard*, albeit less so since Gerard's Aurelac blood is more pure.

Krystallopyr? Definitely godmoding if it was ever used to its full potential by anyone but Ofuchi. That's...actually why I had second thoughts and had it destroyed beyond any possibility of recovery.

*It will never happen. I used that event already and it wouldn't be as cool a second time around.

I wouldn't consider Tiyana's actions godmoding even for a protagonist; you see AoE spells in every game ever made. The Totenkopfs could even have a mage capable of using dispelga or a time mage of their own, although that would be far more likely in an Alentish group than a death cult.

OK, got sidetracked there, but I have a question of my own:

When Kagetsu betrayed the Alliance, he did so by siphoning the powers of the andain, effectively killing them all, and re-distributing their powers into the atmosphere. This caused the Explosion, and anyone born after the explosion got an innate ability effectively taken from the andain. In this day and age, the innate abilities are gone, because they don't add anything cool to the story.

My question is with regard to the mechanics of it. Did the Godslayer absorb all of the andain power in the atmosphere, or in the world? If the latter, everyone would have lost their IAs as soon as the Godslayer took action. If the former, people born between the Explosion and the rise of the Godslayer would still have their innate abilities, but people born afterwards would not get them. The exception to this of course being Leon, since any trace of andain power present in him would risk destroying all magic on earth.

If people born before the godslayer still have IAs, that would mean Gerard and Flynn still have yet-undiscovered abilities in addition to Aurelac familial magic. This will make them harder to write, since I'd have to allow for that.

Second question: Aurelac family magic is not the same as andain magic, but it's derived from it--does that cause a bond of any sort between the Aurelacs and the Godslayer? Can they sense one another?

EDIT: Third question: I used no bbcode other than italics in this post--so why is everyone else's text a brilliant white and mine looks like someone peed on it?

[Nic]

Looks normal to me, Bleys. O_o

I wouldn't consider Tiyana's actions godmoding even for a protagonist; you see AoE spells in every game ever made. The Totenkopfs could even have a mage capable of using dispelga or a time mage of their own, although that would be far more likely in an Alentish group than a death cult.
Yes, and in most games you can kill everything in one hit and come back from the dead. -_- There are a lot of things that don't work out as well in an RP, and to me, this is one of them. I wouldn't see it as so ridiculous if he slowed down a few people and then became too exhausted to keep going, rather than seeming to jump into battle with full energy.

It's just...lame. Raist summed up how I feel pretty well, but I don't know if I should post it. :|

I'm done. I'm not even posting in the RP, so I'll just stay out of it.

[Kossage]

"I may know the answers...to Bleys's questions" *hums Distant Worlds*

Did the Godslayer absorb all of the andain power in the atmosphere, or in the world? If the latter, everyone would have lost their IAs as soon as the Godslayer took action.

It absorbed it all, and we can say that as soon as it devoured Cardia and Mardük, IAs disappeared in an instant (sort of like how Leon nullified magic temporarily, but in this case the Godslayer's effect was permanent). The devouring of the two gods also caused the whole Cataclysm which rearranged the continents and caused all kinds of nasty stuff in general.

So yeah, no one has IAs anymore; that's why Nalaen can't communicate with Daven via telepathy and Varalia can't stun people with her gaze anymore. Those were their IAs, and IAs are gone now.

Second question: Aurelac family magic is not the same as andain magic, but it's derived from it--does that cause a bond of any sort between the Aurelacs and the Godslayer? Can they sense one another?

I hadn't thought of that. If you want to go ahead with that idea, feel free. Anyway, the Godslayer is still sleeping, so it won't be doing anything for the time being.

The only bond I ever thought of was between the Godslayer and Xerathas, because one of the Godslayer's three personalities is Xerathas's dad Zarnagon (who fused into the Godslayer's flesh, which in turn caused the whole Awakening and Cataclysm stuff).

Third question: I used no bbcode other than italics in this post--so why is everyone else's text a brilliant white and mine looks like someone peed on it?

That's what you get for calling Mr. Garlic a mage who has been urinated on (http://www.thegamersalliance.net/forums/showpost.php?p=13131&postcount=55). The wrath of the Lich <s>King</s> can be terrible indeed.

[Citizen Bleys]

Now my text looks fine, but I swear it looked like yellow snow right after I hit submit :(

[Kossage]

And speaking of Mr. Big D's wrath (http://www.thegamersalliance.net/forums/showpost.php?p=13191&postcount=84), the whole garlicmancy thing gave me a nice idea. xD

EDIT: I realize I forgot to mention something that is sort of relevant. The Godslayer's awakening and the devouring of the two gods weren't the only things that caused the Cataclysm. The Libaterran reactor core blowing up and the appearances of the Gate of Darkness (where the demons are coming from) and the Gate of Light (where Fowler (http://www.thegamersalliance.net/forums/showpost.php?p=12706&postcount=54) recently got his "necromantic" powers (http://www.thegamersalliance.net/forums/showpost.php?p=13012&postcount=91) from) also played their part in the mess.

[Nic]

And speaking of Mr. Big D's wrath (http://www.thegamersalliance.net/forums/showpost.php?p=13191&postcount=84), the whole garlicmancy thing gave me a nice idea. xD

EDIT: I realize I forgot to mention something that is sort of relevant. The Godslayer's awakening and the devouring of the two gods weren't the only things that caused the Cataclysm. The Libaterran reactor core blowing up and the appearances of the Gate of Darkness (where the demons are coming from) and the Gate of Light (where Fowler (http://www.thegamersalliance.net/forums/showpost.php?p=12706&postcount=54) recently got his "necromantic" powers (http://www.thegamersalliance.net/forums/showpost.php?p=13012&postcount=91) from) also played their part in the mess.
Lawl, Koss said bur (http://www.wowwiki.com/LOL)
"Like father, like son," Marcus muttered. "I don't know why you're doing this, bur you must realize that Lady Ax and the others will try to rescue me. Since it seems that only you and that elfess are here, you won't stand a chance against Ax and Dawn!"

[Aerith's knight]

I just want to inject here how casually time magic is being used.

In a melee battle, having slow on you, pretty much kills you. How in earth would you parry a blow?

Seems like a godmod power to me if you use it in fields and crap.

Also, seriously Oath, there is one important fight(Ax-Varalia) there, and you just forcibly made yourself the biggest part of that fight, what the fuck was that about?

In a room full of people with skulls on their faces, you go for the two ladies fighting?

[Citizen Bleys]

*porno music plays*

[Citizen Bleys]

Oh. Fighting. Right.

[Aerith's knight]

I like your idea better.

------------------

One girl was fast, one was slow, but together, they made the world spin.

*a girl with a pole enters the frame.*

"I saw you needed some help."

"Hmm, yeah, that should do just fine, now get over here."

-------------------------------

xD

[Citizen Bleys]

I sense that we're soon to be legally obliged to pass sensitivity training :(

[Nic]

._.

Wouldn't be the first time.

[Aerith's knight]

You just poke yourself with a tweezer until you cry and bam! you passed. xD

[Nic]

I can think of better ways to test for sensitivity. >:|

[Aerith's knight]

I'm sorry. ;_;

[The Last Oath]

*Post Edited* There is an extra bit on the end before the Libaterra scene.

I guess you's are right, I didnt think that post through the first time. Feel free to leave Tiyana where she is as the totenkopf will proabably take her if you dont.

[Kossage]

Lawl, Koss said bur (http://www.wowwiki.com/LOL)

That's what I get for posting stuff in a hurry. But what, yet another WoW reference? I feel so left out. :(

Then again, maybe Marcus just wanted to make fun of Xerathas and used that term. In other words, pwned poor Xerry. Marcus was rather pissed off at that time, y'know. *shrug*

Also, seriously Oath, there is one important fight(Ax-Varalia) there, and you just forcibly made yourself the biggest part of that fight, what the fuck was that about?

I can't speak on Nic's behalf, of course, but at least I don't mind if someone butts in while my character is having a duel. Battles tend to be chaotic, so one can't always expect to have an epic mano-a-mano duel in a battlefield without some interference.

I've also done my share of interfering; when the Shadow tried to assassinate Kagetsu II and had an epic duel with him during the Battle of Maar Sul in the older RP, Refan appeared and eventually saved Kagetsu's life in the nick of time. xD

And speaking of interfering, I can't wait to read Nic's next post. Depending on what she writes, I might have an idea in mind. ;)

Also, here's an unrelated trivia snippet: Nicodemus Fowler is actually Dorjan's apprentice Nicodemus from the previous RP. That's why I used the term "mako green eyes" because that was the apprentice's most recognizable feature.

[Raistlin]

It's just...lame. Raist summed up how I feel pretty well, but I don't know if I should post it. :|

Understandable, but I'll explain what I said.

There's some things that work fine in video games that don't really work so well in a story. I feel that easy AoE spells like Haste, Slow, and especially Dispel fit into that group that have to be RPed very carefully to work well at all. Dispel is a "one-spell-cures-all" thing which is just, to paraphrase what I said to Nic, ultra-mega-lame (Poison? Dispel. Magic barrier? Dispel. Chaos resurrection spell? Dispel.). This is a story, not a video game. We're not watching stats and CT like in an SRPG. If someone casts Haste on the entire group of PC characters... how is everyone supposed to react to it? Should it be barely noticeable or will everyone be a blur to the enemy or will some RPers do one thing and others the opposite? Again, it's not god-moding by itself, but it's something that has to be used carefully because it has the potential, as I said to Nic, to be pretty lame in a story.

Also, if I see anyone else adding on "-ga" to the end of spells, I swear I will burn this whole board down.

[Citizen Bleys]

It's OK, I just took a backup.

[Nic]

Well dammit, there goes my pwnga spell. :(

And thank you, TLO, for being patient with us and taking our advice. I'm sorry if it seems like I'm picking on you, I think I'm just getting too old and grumpy.

[Citizen Bleys]

(That means it's that time of the month again)


*10 minutes later*

Sensitivity training again?

[Aerith's knight]

Impossible, she can't have that thrice a month, can she?

[Citizen Bleys]

Lady Luck's time of the month is 32 days long, so yeah.

[Nic]

.___.

I think you guys need a bit more than sensitivity training.

Maybe eunuch training. :)?

[Citizen Bleys]

Lady Luck's time of the month is 32 days long, so yeah.

Holy crap I don't even remember posting this. How much whisky did I have?

I still have money left over, it couldn't have been that much.

[Aerith's knight]

>_>

<_<

Yeah yeah, I had too much whiskey too.

[Nic]

Sure, blame it on the drinking.

Now stop bothering me so I can post in the damn RP!

[Aerith's knight]

We still love you too. :)

[Nic]

Also, has Jemuel always had a stuttering problem?

[Citizen Bleys]

Methinks Jemuel is a bit conflicted. I'm not sure, but I think Koss and Doom have him being controlled by Drishnek, who is Not A Nice Guy. The last time I controlled Jemuel, he was under the influence of Dante Albrigant, but I'm pretty sure I'd written in that Jemuel broke free of that and killed Dante. It was a long time ago.

Koss or Doom: Does our current Jemuel have the memories of the original? He was cloned when Leon's rift was open, so it'd be entirely possible for Jemuel I's spirit to escape.

[Schtolteheim Reinbach III]

Also, has Jemuel always had a stuttering problem?
He doesn't. Drishnek's influence wavered slightly because Leon caught him off guard

Jemuel is a bit conflicted.
yes

I think Koss and Doom have him being controlled by Drishnek
Influenced heavily, not entirely controlled.

who is Not A Nice Guy.
Absolutely not.

I'm pretty sure I'd written in that Jemuel broke free of that and killed Dante.
I'm quite sure someone wrote that, so it was probably you, yes.

Koss or Doom: Does our current Jemuel have the memories of the original? He was cloned when Leon's rift was open, so it'd be entirely possible for Jemuel I's spirit to escape.
He most certainly has Jemuel I's spirit. I'll have an answer on the memory thing tomorrow, I want to ask Kossage a few things first.

[Schtolteheim Reinbach III]

OK, he has some of his memories, but there's a disconnect. He lived for some time before regaining them, after all, and that personality was not just destroyed. His largely incomplete memories of Jemuel I are as if he had read them in a book. He realizes they are "his" on an intellectual level, but not an emotional level.

[Citizen Bleys]

OK, so problem: I don't see a feasable way of getting Khasra's group out of Alent alive. They're not exactly pushovers, but against hundreds or even thousands of Alentish guards...?

Maybe that makes me a failure as an author, but some sort of deus ex machina like Leon somehow managing to access his andain powers without destroying all magic on earth would make me more of a failure as an author.

[Kossage]

Well, talk with Doomy about it. He has some ideas in mind once time progresses to the following days, so it might be a good idea to check things with him. ;)

Also, there are a bunch of possible ways to get people distracted and escape if needed. Here are a few:

1) I intend to bring the Soap to Alent eventually (you'll see once I finish my *CENSORED --Soap* post xD), so be prepared for that.

2) The Vulfsatz would reach Alent eventually (they have fast horses albeit not pegasi level fast) so they'd infiltrate the city one way or another and go after the party. Some mages would sense these intruders, so who knows what might happen then.

3) There are also Josiah and Omaroch who I'm sure wouldn't just stand idle if something happens. Omaroch is still rather surprised, and pleased, that Leon knew him, and he wouldn't have forgotten how Leon helped Refan through the dark times of the Great War.

EDIT: Also, what is the correct form of a person from Alent? Is it Alentian or Alentish? And if it's the first one, shouldn't you say Alentian guards? Just like how we say a Remonian person and a Remonian, so both uses have only "Remonian" and not "Remonish guards" etc.

[Citizen Bleys]

I've been saying Alentish because I think it sounds better. I don't think a canon name has been established.

So far the only thing I can think of is having Leon distract Drishnek by throwing garlic at him.

[Kossage]

Just be careful if Drishnek uses his secret weapon, an ancient and powerful herb known as Allium Sativum Telepathae, the Dread Garlic of Mind Control!

[Citizen Bleys]

I never should have told you where Drishnek's name comes from.

[Nic]

I call godmoding. :|

[Schtolteheim Reinbach III]

OK, so problem: I don't see a feasable way of getting Khasra's group out of Alent alive. They're not exactly pushovers, but against hundreds or even thousands of Alentish guards...?

Maybe that makes me a failure as an author, but some sort of deus ex machina like Leon somehow managing to access his andain powers without destroying all magic on earth would make me more of a failure as an author.

Who says you'll have to fight your way out? Or even sneak out?

I've been saying Alentian, it rolls off the tongue better imo.

[Citizen Bleys]

To paraphrase:

Drisnek: Kill them all!
Jemuel: k.

Khasra and co. are surrounded by guards, they can't leave against Jemuel's will.

[Schtolteheim Reinbach III]

Leon doesn't know that!

[Aerith's knight]

If you really need a way out, I do have a character nearby. But it wasn't really in my plans, although I'm guessing if he heard that you'd be killed he'd be outraged.

Meh, I'll leave it up to you, didn't really plan on it myself.

Wouldn't normally offer it, but you all seemed to be talking about godmodding. xD

edit: lol bath. xD

[Nic]

I was more referring to Koss's post. x)

[Schtolteheim Reinbach III]

I was more referring to Koss's post. x)

Quite literally, yes.

[The Last Oath]

Well I dont think the groups going to decide to sneak out while they're at the inn. That thought would cross they're mind in two days when they go to see Jemuel but then they'll be in his chamber...surronded. The only thing I can think of is something like a bluff.

EDIT: that acutally gives me an idea for how to escape when the parties in the chamber surronded by guards, J and D.

[Citizen Bleys]

I'm not sure how Leon's knowledge or lack thereof is relevant

[The Last Oath]

If your referring to the ageless thing. Then its because Mr Andain seems to know something about Jemeul's fishyness.

[Citizen Bleys]

If your referring to the ageless thing. Then its because Mr Andain seems to know something about Jemeul's fishyness.

Nah, to Doom saying Leon doesn't know what Drishnek and Jemuel are up to.

Leon's main disagreement with Briss is that Jemuel scares the shit out of him. Hell, Kagetsu scared him and at the time, he was still andain. He's not anymore.

[Nic]

I'd be more afraid of the piss-soaked garlic mage. :(

[Kossage]

I call godmoding. :|

It's double the trouble, then, because Nergal isn't the only god in that hall. ;)

EDIT: About Jemuel... we've established earlier that Jemuel I's soul took over the clone's soul thanks to some meddling. However, the clone's personality is still intact but so are Jemuel I's memories, sort of. So, does this mean that his body occupies <i>two</i> souls? If not and the clone's soul vanished, does it mean that personality is not tied to a person's soul? Or did the two souls just... "merge" somehow, like what happened with the Aurelac bros and the Silverbranch bros? xP

EDIT2: xD @ your custom title, Nic.

[Ranti84]

Koss, does Jemuel have any artifacts on him? You could treat it like Yu-Gi-Oh! or something like that.

[Kossage]

Well, at least his treasure chambers are full of magical objects, artifacts and riches that he took from Vulpengaard, but I don't know if he is actually wearing any of those. I'll leave that up to Doomy.

[Schtolteheim Reinbach III]

WE'RE NOT TREATING ANYTHING LIKE YU-GI-OH

[Schtolteheim Reinbach III]

Jemuel cackled as Leon fruitlessly (but not herblessly!) threw garlic at Drishnek. "YOU FOOL," he cried, "YOU'VE ACTIVATED MY TRAP CARD!"

[Aerith's knight]

OHNOES! xD

[Ranti84]

rofl....

*shrugs* It was the first thing that came to mind while not reading the story at all.

[Dignified Pauper]

Yu-Gi-Oh should never come to mind.

Also... You people and that fucking soap.

Edit: I'm just gonna pre-empt the obvious soap post that will follow of it attacking my mouth.

asdadnasd'ahuandfnaudfhaisdngadfhnaoidg*spit* frothy clean mouth.

[Ranti84]

Would a 9 tail fox reference be better? xP

[Schtolteheim Reinbach III]

(12:38:53 PM) New Age Retro DG: Brief layout of the city
(12:38:58 PM) New Age Retro DG: Etemenanki in the center
(12:39:05 PM) New Age Retro DG: to the west is a mercantile district
(12:39:08 PM) New Age Retro DG: and the forges
(12:39:19 PM) New Age Retro DG: North is the mage quarter
(12:39:25 PM) New Age Retro DG: Richelieu's tower is here
(12:39:40 PM) New Age Retro DG: the inn is on the border between the mage quarter and the mercantile quarter
(12:39:54 PM) New Age Retro DG: south is the engineer's quarter
(12:40:14 PM) New Age Retro DG: it's dominated by several large, nondescript buildings, with very high security
(12:40:44 PM) New Age Retro DG: East is underdeveloped
(12:40:49 PM) New Age Retro DG: the barracks and such are there
(12:40:51 PM) New Age Retro DG: a few homes
(12:40:56 PM) New Age Retro DG: some farms, it's more open

The docks are also in the west, forgot to mention that.

[Kossage]

Would a 9 tail fox reference be better? xP

Well, as far as I know, Kitsune Mori still exists somewhere in Yamato, so having demon foxes could be plausible. xD

Also, I solemnly swear that I won't be reforging Krystallopyr. I will intend to use that shard, though, but not the way you think (and it won't be god-moding... necessarily).

[Citizen Bleys]

Leon's gonna be pissed, he thought he'd destroyed them all.

[Dignified Pauper]

I'm sick and tired of these motherfucking Gods in these motherfucking ruins.

but seriously. I've no idea what any of you are doing, so I am just going to let you lot control Nym until we are out of the ruins. I trust your judgments. Meanwhile, I'll continue having Dylas "unify" Remon.

[Citizen Bleys]

I'm not big on using gods either, but I think it might be cool to have somebody travel to the High Plane and see Starholme at some point.

[Kossage]

And if some people ever travel to the High Plane, maybe they could go and say hello to the fire and ice elementals as well on the beach of FLAME.

[Citizen Bleys]

Right after they canoe down the river of FECES and walk the Sands of Broken Glass.

EDIT: First person to make an Excremental joke gets shot.

[The Last Oath]

We now have three super-powered characters. Jacob, Ax and Mr Dark Elf. I guess its cool how they're possessed by gods, they mite even have some additional powers once the gods leave.. and just for the record, whoever thought of the idea to resurrect Ax, Bleys of Nic, if that wasnt pre-planned, then my hat goes off to you, preety sharp idea.

[Citizen Bleys]

We were planning this for quite a long time, actually.

Minus the direct intervention of gods.

[Nic]

I'd planned on her surviving, I just hadn't known that Koss was bringing another god into it as well. xD

As for them having "additional powers" after the gods leave, I wouldn't think so. As far as I can remember, possessed people have always gone back to normal after the god leaves their body...meaning Dawn will most likely break again as soon as Heph's gone, and they'll all be back to normal strength.

[Citizen Bleys]

I don't think Dawn should break, Heph reforged it, and it is a sword blessed by him.

Unless you had some special reason for breaking it other than "hey that'd be cool"

[The Last Oath]

Agreed. It's a perfect reason to have Dawn & Dusk re-united and add some firepower to Ax's arsenal.

[Kossage]

As far as I remember, a character only gains a temporary advantage as long as the god occupies his body. When the god leaves, the character returns back to normal as far as skills and such go (or dies if he received heavy injuries and the god didn't bother to heal him).

The god would be immensely more powerful if he or she manifested in the flesh, but that would mean that the god could be killed. That's why the gods usually prefer using hosts even if they can't use all their powers while occupying a mortal body; if the host dies, the god can just leave the host and return to the High Plane alive.

I think the only god who has ever entered the mortal realm in godflesh and survived was Artemicia (but she only faced a weak cleric and two confused girls who didn't know how to react). Cardia, Gaea and Mardük tried the same trick but ended up dead.

[Aerith's knight]

That's gotta suck though.

"Rawr, I are powerful!"

"Rawr, I are godslayer!"

*chews head off of god*

[Nic]

I don't think Dawn should break, Heph reforged it, and it is a sword blessed by him.

Unless you had some special reason for breaking it other than "hey that'd be cool"
Not really, it just seemed like too easy of a fix (I know we're dealing with gods here, but still)...plus I don't think Jacob's going to be keeping his flaming sword, is he? xD I saw it more as a temporary manifestation of Heph's power.

If Pawl would've actually brought Jumahn in, I would've used it as an opportunity to hunt his ass down and make HIM Heph's High Cleric, but the bastard ran off to do some shit. >:O

[Kossage]

Nah, that flaming sword is just temporary because Nergal needs something cool to fight with. Although the previous sword that Nergal used while possessing a host was Nergal's own sword Apocalypse (this was during the Fastholf vs. Yoshimuriko duel). If Yoshimuriko is around in this RP and if he's the High Cleric of Nergal, then he'll have Apocalypse as a sign of his rank in that clergy.

And that Jumahn stuff is kind of unfortunate, since we have both the profile AND the profile pic. Now all that we're missing are actual posts about him in the RP. He just looks like a stray kid among other characters who actually are/will be mentioned in the RP. xP

EDIT: AK, your chewing post reminds me of a really creepy scene in Parasyte. I'll post links. This might give you nightmares, so click those links at your own risk.

THIS (http://www.onemanga.com/Parasyte/1/22/), THIS (http://www.onemanga.com/Parasyte/1/23/) and THIS (http://www.onemanga.com/Parasyte/1/24/).

And now that I think of it, this will be perfect for what I have in mind for the Dwellers. xD

[Aerith's knight]

Chewing?

[Kossage]

Chewing?

That's gotta suck though.

"Rawr, I are powerful!"

"Rawr, I are godslayer!"

*<b>chews</b> head off of god*

Yes, chewing.

[Aerith's knight]

Yes, chewing.

I thought you were talking about my chapter post. xD

But yeah, that was a pretty creepy manga.

[Citizen Bleys]

For a sec there, I thought you'd forgotten about the cleric thing when you had Heph fuck off at the end of the fight.

[Nic]

Pft, nah. I told you when you PMed me, I had that post all written up before we were even done battling. xD Few small edits and it was good to go in all its pretentious glory.

[Schtolteheim Reinbach III]

I really do not have anything to post until nightfall of this day in Alent, so please feel free to have a wacky adventure or two.

[Citizen Bleys]

I already had Khasra run around with his junk hanging out, chasing his own kilt through town, how wacky do you want?

[Kossage]

Bleys and Doomy: I have one post in mind before the night stuff, but I didn't want to put it into my current post because it was getting long. It's just a short thing dealing with Guy and the fourth, as of yet unnamed SAVAGE member (I have a great name in mind for that fourth guy, just wait and see xD). I'm fine if the party proceeds to the night, as I can post the Guy stuff as a flashback if needed.

AK and Nic: if you want Ax and Nesa to talk before heading out, you can make that scene happen before the events of my post, or you can just postpone the conversation after they get out. I just had to get that scene done with, so that's why the sudden interruption. :(

[Aerith's knight]

Just no break, is there. >_>

[Citizen Bleys]

Re: the Liosliath disappearance scene.

I can't reveal who the mystery man was without giving away a major spoiler that Koss has asked me to hold onto until the right moment. That moment is coming soon, though.

[The Last Oath]

Whos is Liosliath again?

[Citizen Bleys]

Steve's son. Well, Khasra's son by Steve's wife.

[Kossage]

Does Khasra still have syphilis?

[Citizen Bleys]

I dunno. I guess?

[Nic]

Okay, dudes...I think we need to sort out just what's going on in Remon. xD

From the original meeting, and Koss's and my posts, I would assume that Dylas's influence outside Ravensworth and the surrounding area was minimal, and the majority of the people and armies would have either supported or marched with the Second GA. There's really no reason for Remonton and the area around it to doubt Marcus or the new council, which consists of trusted temporary stewards from each race. These aren't old stewards, they're newly appointed after leading the rebuilding of Remonton. Following Marcus's return, and remembering the "old ways" that Dylas invoked in the first place, they would be feeling pretty good about things. Why would they turn to a former steward who's done nothing for their own area?

Personally, I'm thinking an 80% Marcus, 20% Dylas split would be realistic. The area surrounding Ravensworth would of course support Dylas, but outside of that, I don't think his power should extend much further. And of course he'd have no support amongst the elves, partly due to his association with Nymgrock and partly because he really hasn't done anything to win them over.

[Dignified Pauper]

I agree with the association with elves. I've only said that Nymgrock had used a few elves to start training the forces, however, Dylas has no clue about any of that because he never goes to Opethsburg. If he did, Grange would know to hide the elves. Nymgrock has made sure he never needs to go to Opethsburg though. As far as the new stewards being appointed, I had no clue about that. I just assumed after Marcus left, everyone sort of felt abandoned and therefor, Arbriel and the other stewards put themselves back into roles of power.

I would say that anyone within Dylas' sphere of influence would rightly be angry at Marcus for choosing to march north instead of fixing their country here. The mass populace does tend to be really stupid, after-all. So I would have just assumed that, because Dylas outright said he did not agree with going to Maar Sul, the people would support that. However, his influence is not heavy farther west, but he has reached alliances with Cassandria, Opethsburg, and he pretty much controls Ravensworth. As for the immigrants coming from the west to be trained in Opethsburg, while it's a heavy amount, it's nowhere near mass populations of the west. It's merely a handful of individuals from the various cities across the west of Remon who are tired of politics helping others instead of Remon. I mean, Remon is still pretty screwed up as far as leadership goes.

Regardless, The White Ravens have been trained for a very specific purpose which has only been hinted at, but not fully disclosed. Despite that, Dylas is just imposing his will west slowly, and with tactical grace toward the people, making sure to offend few. While some in Ravensworth are rightly shocked by his use of force against bandits, most of them are happy to have them rid of the streets.

[Kossage]

I think at least Nymgrock does have <i>some</i> influence on some of the elves because the whole meeting and forming of the White Ravens just wouldn't have been possible if no elf had travelled to Opethburg to meet Grange in the first place. The elves that support Nym and Dylas might be a minority, but such supporters definitely exist.

Also, please bear in mind that when/once the GA armies leave Remon and enter Maar Sulais territory, the only major player in the whole region will be the White Ravens and the Ravensworth Watch which have been growing steadily all this time. The elves that stay in Remon will likely just die to the plague in their woods, and the dwarves that remain will just get drunk in Drithenspire or whatever. And the smaller villages and towns like Cassandria and Bree just aren't any match for a bigger organized military force like the Ravensworth Watch.

So even with the 80/20 split, Dylas will be a force to reckoned with while most of the war veterans and Marcus supporters are marching with the GA armies to Maar Sul.

I also like to point out something that might or might not be obvious:

The GA army that is currently marching to Maar Sul does NOT have all the manpower it could have. Fragnar has yet to send its clerics/white mages/paladins/knights templar/whatever to Marcus's aid, because Anthony is organizing them. Ditto for dwarves of Drithenspire and elves of Folsworth Woods. They are, as we say, reinforcements, and they will begin marching to Remonton where they'll get organized into a proper army and then follow behind the GA army.

Some of the delegates and their armies would of course be marching with "Marcus/Ronove" right now, such as Gilgrim and the dwarven company, Ferron and some of his mages/paladins, Krisler's elven archers (dunno if Krisler himself is with them, though) and Tywion Crowley's men. However, the majority of their forces have only recently got information about what the main army is doing and are yet to reach Remonton.

Yes, this is one of the reasons why Ferron was so pissed off at Marcus and Crowley's decision to march straight to Maar Sul without waiting for a couple of days. Now the reinforcements will follow only days later, so if the first army ends up meeting some skilled foes on the way, there's no one to save their asses. xP

But the western areas of Maar Sul hardly seem to have any major resistance left from Proninists etc. because of Briss's sabotage and the fact that most of the Proninists of that area are currently fortifying Victoire. Or at least that's how I see it.

[Dignified Pauper]

Keep in mind, Nymgrock only recruited like 20 elves from Folsworth to help train the units. As far as any other elves that came from Folsworth, they'd have been probably very few in numbers and they only joined because they seek a life outside of the woods of adventure. Nymgrock, while not really for adventure, so much as for knowledge, and not being permitted to leave the woods when he did, abandoning his training, sort of rallies those with that sort of cause. It's no secret to most elves who he is, if they have ever lived in Sanae. I've worked it so that the Sigiln house was somewhat prominent, although, only in status, not in political power. Dylas pretty much is Nymgrock's biggest rise to fame, and certainly the Folsworth elves know who Nymgrock is, even if they haven't seen him in ages.

[Nic]

All this sounds good to me, for the most part.

[Nic]

So even with the 80/20 split, Dylas will be a force to reckoned with while most of the war veterans and Marcus supporters are marching with the GA armies to Maar Sul.
Yeah, that's what I meant to imply. Dylas is definitely enough to pose a threat, but realistically, his control should be pretty limited. I'm undecided on how the current stewards should view him, though, since they don't know what a deceitful bastard he is. xD

And sigh. With all their antics, it's easy to forget that the doomed romance between Nesa and Rhylian is really quite tragic. :|

[Dignified Pauper]

Yeah, Dylas is pretty disgusting as far as morals go. Poor poor Swenson is all I have to say for now :(

[Nic]

Btw, is everyone okay with starting a new chapter soon? Koss thinks it'd be good to start one after the Alent stuff is sorted out.

[Citizen Bleys]

works for me

[Kossage]

In case anyone's wondering who Gwydion/Koskenkorva sensed, they were Ariadne and two other knights that Richelieu sent to intercept Drishnek.

[Citizen Bleys]

More paladins would be good. Khasra won't be able to so much as scratch Drishnek, he's all defense and no offense, the way a paladin should be.

[Nic]

What, he can't go respec ret?

[Kossage]

You'll also need all the help you can get, because you won't be facing just Drishnek but also three Vulfsatz members who should be arriving soon.

And yeah, Ariadne and her pals are paladins. Oh, and I can't wait to see how Khasra and Steve work as a "team". xP

[Citizen Bleys]

You can't spell "retard" without R-E-T.

[Nic]

Y'know, I keep waiting for one of Leon's companions to be like "Dude, fuck this shit. You can have Leon, I'm going home!"

[Kossage]

I think both Leon and Khasra sort of share that sentiment, actually. Although Khasra would probably want Drishnek to eat Steve first just because.

Koskenkorva's not Koskenkorva anymore (I'm still disappointed that none of you commented on the reference), so he doesn't count. Guy is a SAVAGE operative and does what he's told, Briss wouldn't give up as far as I've seen in the RP, and Steve... I think he's not the "FTS!" type either.

[Schtolteheim Reinbach III]

IF possible, I'd like it if the party took more of an initiative in killing Drishnek than the various NPCs do. It'd just make the story flow a little better - it's ok if it's not in character or anything though.

[Nic]

Briss wouldn't give up as far as I've seen in the RP,
Oathy said last night on MSN that Briss would probably change sides if the money was better on the other side. xD

[Kossage]

I just realized that I forgot Alistair from that Maar Sulais list. I think he'd probably do what he could to protect Leon, although only Bleys knows for sure. xD

[Citizen Bleys]

Steve's loyalty is absolute, and Alistair is a desk jockey; he couldn't fight his way out of a nursery.

[Kossage]

Well, Alistair's still better than Leon who can't fight his way out of a wet paper bag, though! :P

[Citizen Bleys]

Leon can still use bardic magic.

[Kossage]

That means Drishnek can throw a spoon at him and yell "You spoony bard!" :D

[Citizen Bleys]

DO THIS FOR YOUR WARCHIEF

((I'd apologize to Doom for stealing his joke, but we all know I wouldn't mean it))

[The Last Oath]

Yeah, i mean with the Crimson Coalition but Briss also has past loyalties to Maar Sul that still exist, and besides, he still has a "mission" to complete. Im all for the killing Drishnek, I think Briss & Steve's character suit that as well as some Holy strike from Khasra, keeping in mind that Drishnek is a syco who has already revived himself from a group of attacking Paladins. The Vulfsatz are arriving soon, I dont think they'll engage Drishnek directly because I had the idea that there gonna attack from the rear and catch the group in the crossfire.

[Nic]

Okay, it's been a few days since anything has happened in the chapter thread. If a resolution in Alent isn't going to happen any time soon, I think we need to move on and make the next chapter.

[Kossage]

Thanks a lot for saying that <i>nothing</i> has happened even though Ax and Refan were finally getting it on until they were interrupted. :P

Well, I can write something to wrap up the battle later tonight.

[Nic]

I mean on the Libaterra side of things, which is all I've been waiting for to start a new chapter. xP

[Citizen Bleys]

Fight scenes aren't my forté, that's why most of my characters....can't fight. At all. Steve being the only exception I can think of.

EDIT: My sex scene trumps Koss's sex scene.

[Nic]

What's the fifth law of the andain? :(

[Citizen Bleys]

The law of unintended consequences.

Sort of like how Leon accidentally let Kagetsu out. And how he accidentally let the Faerfolc out. And the time he got drunk and let something else hang out in public.

[Nic]

Why isn't that in the wiki entry? xD

[Citizen Bleys]

Because I can't think of a suitable way to phrase it that doesn't refer to the real world. Yet.

It's here (http://thegamersalliance.net/w/Talk:Laws_of_the_Andain), though.

[Nic]

For every action, there is an unintended "FUUUUUUCK!" waiting to happen?

[Kossage]

So, Bleys, I assume Khasra's group is currently at the Yamatian border or nearby (because I can't really see any other forests that would be close enough)?

If they are indeed passing (or have passed) the Yamatian border, I'd really like to know how they managed to cross the entire Tronin Desert in less than a day and with hardly any supplies. Did they steal some of Syd's rockets and use those to reach Yamato? Or maybe Drishnek's banishment caused a temporal vortex that sucked them in and spat them out in front of the forest? xD

I know that you're in a hurry and that travelling time can be altered with time warm dances, but I'm just curious. :P

[Citizen Bleys]

It took them a long time, but nothing interesting happened, so I didn't write about it?

That or I didn't look at a map. A forest was there because I needed a forest to be there to achieve the ambiance I was going for.

[Kossage]

Yeah, fair enough. The map shows only the biggest woods, anyway, so I'm sure there'd be maybe a small forest located somewhere between Alent and the desert.

Well, the long time argument doesn't necessarily work, because I remember Briss joining Khasra's party a few days after he had met Belial and the delegates in Remonton. That means that the current events in Remon/Maar Sul are pretty much happening at the same time as the events in Libaterra.

We can do a time warm dance and have the events in your post happen near the Yamatian border if you want to get there quickly without stopping by at Vanna.

However, if you'd like to follow the same timeline as Remon/Maar Sul without too many time warm dances, then Khasra's party would be getting closer to Tronin Desert at the moment. Adela owes Briss a favour, so if you choose to follow this idea, the party can travel through the smaller Sarquil towns (which aren't on the map) and reach Vanna where they can resupply and then continue their journey.

Actually, this Vanna idea might give us a chance to let Leon see how powerful the Clergy of Artemicia has become in Vanna. I'd assume that Leon wouldn't necessarily be happy about seeing so many devoted worshippers of his mom. xD

[Citizen Bleys]

I really have nothing in mind for the rest of the party's time in Alent, so I think I'll just RP other stuff for a couple of days and let some time pass, so the group's journey to Yamato is eventless.

I actually have an idea in mind for one post that throws out tributes to Mel Gibson, Mel Brooks, and Richard Pryor all in one go without using any of the Khasra Party characters. I don't know if I'll have time to write it tonight, though.

[Kossage]

Well, we can just skip ahead in time if needed and have the party appear near the Yamatian border. That would also help with the stuff in Maar Sul, because the GA army would probably reach Maar Sul City about the same time as Khasra's party reaches Yamato.

Anyway, I'm fine however we want to deal with this stuff. Some things will start to cook up in Maar Sul once the Alliance gets there, though. Belial wants to meet Gerard, and there are a few other shady characters who will do something too. :P

[Citizen Bleys]

Gerard's not into the kinky stuff.

[Kossage]

Desdemona is, though, and she'll be present in the meeting. ;)

[The Last Oath]

Arnt all the De Ardyns?

[Nic]

Bleys, kind sir...have you ever had your head examined?

[The Last Oath]

In case your wondering how Nivek & his team got into the citadel, there are many ways, believe which ever you like.

1) The most likely, all the nobles in town are invited to attend, Nivek & the inner circle crew usually dress quite high class with all the gil thats been pouring in.

2) Scuns are in attendance, so I s'pose people in maar sul are invited.

3) They payed some people at the gate. or payed for their attendance.

4) They snuck in.

[Kossage]

Arnt all the De Ardyns?

No. Belial may be a schemer of the worst kind, but even he wouldn't shag his brother (or even his half brother if he had any, or even his brother's corpse, for that matter).

"You kill him, you kill yourself, you motherfuckers! GIVE ME BACK MY SON!"

ITT Mel Gibson quotes. Gotta love Ransom, as awful as those last minutes of it were. <3

Also, I think it would've been interesting if the governor of Hellespont had been Ron Jeremy, but oh well.

Anyway, yeah. Some time has passed (days, weeks, doesn't matter) in the story by now, and the Grand Alliance army is currently entering Maar Sul. And no more n***** talk, or the Soap will appear in Maar Sul and wipe everyone's mouth clean. :pimp:

[Citizen Bleys]

It was a cross between Jason Bernard and Ron Jeremy, actually; and Hellespont was originally named after a campaign in the Wing Commander games commanded by Jason Bernard's character, William Eisen. This is also why the guy whose head exploded in frustration was named Jason xD

P.S. The ending of Ransom didn't suck. Det. Shaker's little speech was awesome. You have to ask yourself: Is today Jimmy Shaker day?

A bit of a social experiment: If you found that post funny, try copy/pasting it into a new window and replacing all of the astrisks with the letters they're designed to hide. Notice that it's not the least bit funny anymore. Jokes that are "all in the delivery" do exist in a textual medium.

[Nic]

I still find it funny. :|

[Kossage]

I don't know who's going to be attending the ball in Maar Sul, so I left that bit open for the most part. However, at least Belial's group and Marcus and Refan are there. ;)

Also, Bleys and Nic: you don't have to make Gerard and Marcus answer Belial immediately or even during this ball. Belial's in a hurry, but he doesn't want to force Gerard or Marcus to do anything rash, so he can wait for their answers.

If anyone else wants to talk to the kings or Belial or whatever, go ahead. Belial has already done what he wanted to do, so he can now hang out and enjoy the party. :P

[Citizen Bleys]

xD @ Glaurung's speech.

[The Last Oath]

ohh man, if only Briss was still in Trinity Gask.

[Nic]

Bleys, are there any Maar Sul-controlled ports at this point?

[Citizen Bleys]

If there needs must be. The only cities that have been written in as Proninist-controlled are Port Dunross and Victoire.

Maybe Jardine and/or Matheson? Those are ports.

[Kossage]

But aren't Jardine and Matheson really close to Scundia? And wasn't one of those cities actively supporting Proninists? How about Caer Goddard and/or Hellespont, or are those two cut off from the sea?

Also, I have one more post in mind, so I hope you can keep this evening/nighttime stuff going a bit longer before we skip to morning.

Also, what was that lion stuff all about, Bleys? xD

[Citizen Bleys]

The Jardines and Mathesons hate each other. IIRC, the Mathesons were supporting the Proninists, which would make the Jardines support the King.

Hellespont was a port in the Distreyd era, but it looks like it would be landlocked now. Goddard works, but it's on the north shore and Nic said south in her post.

Re: the lion: I wanted a fackin' lion in the story. Also, I'm a nutjob.

[Nic]

So I could make it north, sheesh. xD Though south makes more sense, and makes it easier if we wanna use it to go to Libaterra.

[Citizen Bleys]

So Jardine's the spot, then.

[Kossage]

Sorry for the fast pace; I just had to get this scene done.

Also, I'm ready to move on to the following morning if the rest of you are. :)

[Nic]

lawwwl @ AK's Nightstalker bit. xD

And awww @ first kisses. <3

[Dignified Pauper]

I've so much shit to read and catch up on. FUCK.

[Citizen Bleys]

Not really, you're in the same boat I was in before people started coming to Maar Sul. You've got an entire country to yourself and can do basically whatever the hell you want with it, short of dropping it into the sea.

This stuff that's going on in Maar Sul and Libaterra would have little to no effect on Remon.

[Nic]

He also has a character with the Maar Sul group. xD

And he doesn't really have Remon to himself. A lot of armies are still there, from what I understand, and of course Remonton is controlled by the Stewards.

[Citizen Bleys]

And the Stewards are controlled by Marick. If you control both sides of the conflict, you can do whatever you want with it, and hopefully make it more entertaining than I did with the Proninist invasion of Maar Sul.

[Dignified Pauper]

Actually, I only really control Dylas and the Eastern Coast of Remon, but in the Eastern Coast, he has a lot of influence. As far as Greenlight and Arbriel, they aren't my characters.


And I've no fucking clue how to deal with Nymgrock in the situation present, so I'm just going to assume he stayed at the inn where they all are staying, because he had his own matters to attend to. I'm gonna have to give a slight flash back.

[Nic]

You can control them if you want, though. I honestly hate Remon and want nothing more to do with it. I'm not in the mood for some stupid civil war. I'd much rather we shift the focus onto other countries, but if you want to play there, go ahead.

[Citizen Bleys]

Settle issues in Maar Sul and get Marcus out of Shyralis's control, and he should be strong enough to solo Remon while everyone else focuses on the Crimson Coalition.

Khasra can tank.

[Charli800]

I hope it was okay to make it morning, couldn't see anything else to do.

[Dignified Pauper]

I'll see what I can do in Remon myself, though, giving me that power... Remon might not have anything left. (It probably will.)

[Nic]

Lawl. I trust you, Marick. I think. We just spent so much time in Remon in the last RP (when I was active, anyway) that I'm...slightly tired of the place.

And Charli, that's fine.

Edit: And welcome back, Mr. Moo-lay. :pimp:

[The Last Oath]

I always though SAVAGE stood for something like:

Special Actions Violent Assualt Group Elites
______________________________________


EDIT: What does it mean?

[Citizen Bleys]

Nothing has a standing Bleys, I always write while seated.

[Nic]

No funny business went on under that tree, you perverts.

[Kossage]

So, Bleys: what does SAVAGE mean? Is it what TLO suggested, or something else? :P

Will Gerard give his answer to Belial and Khalid's question during the funeral in the evening, or is he still thinking about it? ;)

Also, I'll be ready to move on to the evening and the funeral if the rest of you are ready.

[Citizen Bleys]

sav⋅age
   /ˈsævɪdʒ/ [sav-ij] adjective, noun, verb, -aged, -ag⋅ing.
–adjective
1. fierce, ferocious, or cruel; untamed: savage beasts.
2. uncivilized; barbarous: savage tribes.
3. enraged or furiously angry, as a person.
4. unpolished; rude: savage manners.
5. wild or rugged, as country or scenery: savage wilderness.
6. Archaic. uncultivated; growing wild.

Gerard still doesn't have access to any of his advisors; when Leon gets back, perhaps then.

I'm ready anytime, I just want time to move forward to the arrival of Khasra & Co. at the Silverbranch Tree. If that takes a while in-game, all the better, since it gives Gerard a chance to get older.

[Nic]

Then why is it all capitalized like an acronym? .-.

[Kossage]

xD

So SAVAGE doesn't mean anything like "Special Actions Violent Assault Group Elites" even though its branches have specific meanings behind the names such as SRT = Strategic Response Team? Interesting. :)

Also, I thought Gerard would talk with Siobrach and with whoever else knows stuff in the court. I don't think Leon will get back to Maar Sul any time soon.

Will Gerard be attending Belial's funeral, by the way, or will he just send a representative there?

[Citizen Bleys]

The organization is capitalized to distinguish it from the adjective, and I don't see any reason why Gerard wouldn't show up at Belial's funeral. He'd be pretty pissed about a second murder happening right in the Citadel, though.

[Nic]

Uhm. So how is this going to work, with two conniving bitches controlling Marcus? xD I think the poor boy's head will explode.

[Citizen Bleys]

I already did the head exploding joke, and now Miyuki has to hire a new aide.

[The Last Oath]

Split motives? Split personality?

[Kossage]

Uhm. So how is this going to work, with two conniving bitches controlling Marcus? xD I think the poor boy's head will explode.

I keep wondering how this would turn out if Alessandra was still around. Maybe she'd give Marcus a good whack to get him back on the right track? :P

[Citizen Bleys]

Koss is trying to kill the Fonz :(